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Van Gogh, Starry Night (painting), (June 1889)
© Museum of Modern Art, New York Museum of Modern Art, New York, USA / Bridgeman Images

While we're on our summer break, we're looking back over the 200 interviews we've done for the podcast and putting together highlights in a weekly themed episode. First up are two conversations about Van Gogh, from September 2018 and earlier this year, with Martin Bailey of The Art Newspaper and Martin Gayford, critic and writer of books on Michelangelo, Freud and Hockney, among others.

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