Dominique Lévy: I just dont think big is better

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Dominique Lévy, the co-founder of the Lévy Gorvy gallery, which grabbed the Art Basel Hong Kong headlines last year by selling Willem de Koonings Untitled XII for $35m
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Dominique Lévy is bored of being a woman, or at least talking about it.

“Look, I dont go into work every day thinking, Im a woman dealer. I go into work thinking, Im a dealer,” says the 52-year-old Swiss co-founder of the Lévy Gorvy gallery. That said, “theres still a boys club,” she concedes, adding: “There are some limitations that Ive experienced [as a woman], or things Ive seen—particularly at art fairs. That boys club is really annoying.”

We meet at the Madison Avenue gallery of Lévy Gorvy (Brett Gorvy, former chairman and international head of post-war and contemporary art at Christies, has been Lévys business partner since 2017), where Lévy proudly shows me the museum-worthy Warhol Women exhibition, complete with fuchsia pink walls and 1960s soundtrack.

The red brick Upper East Side building is the size of a large townhouse. “It has soul,” Lévy says. Its proportions are on a very different scale to the cavernous warehouses of Chelsea, where Hauser & Wirth, David Zwirner and Pace are currently engaged in a gallery building race—Paces eight-storey monolith is due to open in September.

Lévys view? She shrugs: “I have a very, I dont know, maybe old-fashioned, maybe European, or maybe from a womans perspective… but I just dont think big is necessarily better. I admire it, but I dont envy it.”

For lunch, she has chosen a competitors restaurant—Larry Gagosians Japanese Kappo Masa, in the basement below his Madison Avenue gallery. Gagosian, she says, is a “phenomenon—he has created what Gap is to fashion”. Yet she is disparaging about the “five or six men [who] looked at that and said: This is what I want. Then you get exactly what were seeing now, which is that bigger is better, more is better, sometimes to the detriment of the art.” The wannabe mega-dealers are, she thinks, the root of “a lot of the weakness in the art world right now. They follow the same model. Theres no imagination, no emotion.”

I dont go into work every day thinking, Im a woman dealer.

Born in 1967 in Lausanne, Switzerland, Lévy has a reputation for being a tough dealmaker, with a tenacity and business nous instilled in her by her father. She was “groomed to go into finance” as he had, and cut her teeth doing work experience as a currency trader in the 1980s.

She never felt at home in Switzerland, though. With grandparents from Syria, Lebanon, Belgium and Germany, she describes herself as “a pure diaspora product”. But she did feel at home in a big top. “I would go to the circus and feel emotions that I cant really express to this day,” she says. “I love it. Its that thing where you cant really breathe for a second, and you feel big, big, big, and small, small, small, and it matters. I think I constantly search for that feeling now with art.”

Hard to imagine, but the immaculately dressed Lévy trained as a clown for a while before handing in the red nose and shoes (though she collects the latter). “I dont have a circus talent,” she says. “I tried theatre, but I dont have a theatrical talent. Where am I going to be able to find this feeling?”

The key was reading Raymonde Moulins book, The French Art Market: A Sociological Perspective. “She had a theory that art is always ahead of any sociological movement,” Lévy says. That clicked, and Lévy knew art was her calling after curating her first show aged 18, inviting artists to “inhabit the rooms” of a semi-abandoned 18th-century house between Geneva and Lausanne. She still talks of her desire to create a gallery that is a “salon”, with poets, musicians, dancers and artists.

Her father, though, was unimpressed. “He said, Do you want to be a dilettante? For him, art was not a profession.” But she made it one, with stints at Sothebys and the London dealer Anthony dOffay, before launching the private sales department at Christies. “Im so happy that before he [her father] died, he saw that I had made it a profession.” That was two months before she opened her own gallery in New York.

“I really wondered what the world was telling me,” she says. “Id gone out on my own [in 2012 she split with Robert Mnuchin, after running the L&M Arts gallery with him for seven years], my father was finally at peace with my career, and he was coming to my opening. It felt like someone had taken a baseball bat to my legs.”

Being in a duo suits Lévy best: “When I left Bob, it was because the partnership was not working any more—we grew apart. I felt really drained, and sad. It was like a divorce.”

Last year, Lévy Gorvys sale of a $35m Willem de Kooning painting was the headline stat at Art Basel in Hong Kong, but Lévy insists she remains humbled by such figures. “You cant underestimate the sum of money some of these works are being traded for. I take it incredibly seriously.” But is it right? “I cant answer if its right. It is a market—its about supply and demand. It could be a diamond or real estate—art has reached the level of an asset class. So the question is: what calls for these prices?”

Art, she thinks, gives “unique pleasure” as an investment—but not if locked up in a freeport surely?. “Some people have rooms in a freeport, where they just go and look at the art,” she says. “The real point of freeports is really for the dealers. Its nice to be able to store [art] in a freeport with the ever changing laws. In England were all putting things away, because we dont want to be hit with an import tax [for shipping works to the EU after Brexit].” The London gallery is kept “very light” on stock by “keeping it in Switzerland or even a bonded warehouse in London. None of us are rich enough to suddenly be hit [by fees].”

Its a bit patronising: why should we still be talking about women artists? Have you ever heard someone talking about Rothko as a man artist?

The press “has contributed in a very unhealthy way to this idea of an opaque art market”, she says, adding that transparency cannot always be reconciled with clients privacyRead More – Source

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